js> I don't know about Hans' reasons, but here are my top 10: All very good points. js> 2) It works, reliably, on AMD64 (debian doesn't, yet). That's good. My two desktop machines are both AMD64. js> 6) It's pared down to a reasonable set of js> applications (2 browsers, 2 email clients, a js> few games and accessories, 1 office suite, js> etc...) in the base install. I saw on the distro's web site that they favor Gnome. Is KDE flat out not included? I used Gnome for years, but when I moved to SuSE last November, I gave in and switched to KDE, learned to like it, and haven't looked back. What sort of sysadmin support is provided? I happen to like SuSE's YaST. Not that I don't like being able to do things from the command line, which I've done for more years than I care to think about, but sometimes you want to do something you flat out don't know how to do, but YaST does. As I've come to believe, Debian is great, particularly for keeping things updated, but is less friendly about admin processes. I have no intention of switching from SuSE; I'm just asking for information because when someone like der.hans with his knowledge and background recommends Ubuntu, it provokes my curiosity. -- Lynn David Newton MontaVista Software, Inc. 2141 E. Broadway Road, Suite 108 Tempe, AZ 85282 Phone: 480-517-5047 Email: lnewton@mvista.com --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss