Josh Coffman said: > > I also never bought into that monopoly thing... MS > isn't a monopoly; it is(was?) an oligopoly. I'm not > sure if that's the right word, but basically a seller > or group of sellers that have such a large portion of > the market that thay basically have a strangle hold of > potential buyers. Like a monopoly, but not an absence > of choices. Problem for the MS-is-monopoly crowd is > that an oligopoly isn't illegal. Otherwise, the > utility companies would also be in violation. MS was declared by a court of law to be a monopoly. I guess you don't agree with that ruling. One of the MS practices that helped the court arrive at that ruling was this factual scenerio: You sell computers. You want to sell Windows pre-installed on those computers. MS says you have to *pay* for a Windows license for *every* computer you sell, *regardless of whether or not* Windows is actually installed on it. But the computer will have Solaris X86 on it. Have to pay MS for a Windows license anyway. If you don't agree with this condition, MS will not allow you to sell *any* computers with Windows on it. Such a demand can only work if the demander is a monopoly. For a consumer computer seller you could not operate your business without accepting their demand. That is monopoly power. Currently contracts with MS appearently state that if you want to sell Windows every computer you sell must ship with an OS. So, when manufacturers want to ship a computer without an OS, who are under this contract, will trow a CD of FreeDOS or something similar into the box, just to be in compliancep[1]. It's still a pretty draconian requirement for a contract but at least the manufacturers don't have to pay for a license that did not even ship. Alan [1] One example: http://www.informit.com/articles/article.asp?p=170498&seqNum=3&rl=1 --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss