All of the Wildflower Bread Company resturants
(http://www.wildflowerbread.com) have WiFi, though they don't serve beer....
;( 

Gilbert

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[mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of der.hans
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 3:43 PM
To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
Subject: RE: WestSide Stammtisch ... was move Stammtisch?

Am 27. May, 2005 schwätzte G Gambill so:

> I just got a WiFi locator and will check out the Central/Camelback 
> area.  Is that called snorting?

Better than wardriving is probably google driving :).

We don't want to be latching onto someone's access point without their
permission.

> There is also a coffee/sandwich type place (Market Street something I 
> think) at 7th street and Glendale.  Kind of small, which gives rise to 
> the question ... how many seats for starters.

They offer free wireless access to customers?

> I'll also try to check out the Holiday Inn at 4300 N. Central.
>
> What exactly am I looking for.  That is what makes a good place?  My 
> thoughts include:
>
>   good food reasonably priced
>   low ambient noise
>   sufficient seating (what is that)
>   WiFi (I think I know the answer to this one)  ;-)
>
> If folks would rate each from 1 (low importance) to 10 (high 
> importance) I would appreciate it.
>
> Also, is beer and/or wine important?

More people show up when beer is available.

> What about smoking v. no smoking?

We have people who only show up to non-smoking areas, but we also have
smokers. A place that has designated smoking areas away from the eating area
seem the best solution.

Places that don't have a strong smell of any type are good. Some of us can't
stand the smell of coffee/fish/etc.

The WiFi needs to include full Internet access, not just port 80. Many of us
use SSH, for instance. Some of us use SSH on non-standard ports as well.

Locations:

Phoenix libraries.
http://www.phoenixpubliclibrary.org/wireless.jsp

http://www.wififreespot.com/ar.html

http://phoenix.citysearch.com/roundup/40211?brand=msn

ciao,

der.hans
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