On Thursday 26 May 2005 13:33, Technomage wrote: > well, > as the subject says, thats is my situation. > > I am in need of work, but I am also in need of training to make myself a > better employee. unfortunately, I don't have the $$$ to get the training > and am thus not in a position to be employable. > > anyone willing to help out? > > I have a resume, but am afraid it is a little out of date. > > $$$->training->job->$$$->training..... > > see the problem? > > TMH Unfortunately, experience doesn't count for as much these days as we all wish. Look at it from the hiring decision makers point of view: 1. References = Phone calls = More work for you to do. Are you gonna work hard to get somebody uncertified through the door for their opportunity to shine? 2. Experienced computer personnel usually know what they're worth and, therefore, will ask for more money than the company is willing to pay. However, that A+ certified child just getting out the accelerated A+ certified program at the local community college is only looking for $10.00/hour! Would you take a chance on the experience person with no certifications or would you rather take the 'solid' (aka: certified) choice? 3. Being in Human resources, and the person directly responsible for ensuring the company is getting the 'most for their buck', which choice will you pick to ensure that the decision you make in hiring has 'supporting evidence' with regards to you making a 'bad' decision? Remember, you gotta cover your own ass in order to keep your job. 4. 90% of the people in Human Resources for computer based companies have little to no knowledge of the Technical Industry. Are they wise enough to be filling these positions? No, they're not. BUT, just like everything else, they have a degree in Human Resources...so they have to be qualified for the position, right? At least that's what their boss thinks. ;) lol However, the advice about getting in the community and working 'for free' may be worthwhile. Just remember that the typical HR department is a bunch of self-preservating lazy asses and those references you earn may never *ever* be contacted. As with anything in life...it's always a risk. But the best thing you can ever do is decide which route you want to take and make it work for you. The hardest part is deciding the route...after all, you can get to Miami, Florida by taking hundreds of different roads. :) -- Sincerely, Jason Spatafore http://www.spatafore.net A+ Certified Service Professional --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss