Bill Earl wrote: ... perhaps a new list more specific for linux questions or linux technical info would be a better answer. That way people would have a resource for asking questions about linux, and getting linux news. With a more specific purpose defined it might be easier to keep that list under control. I'd also vote for a moderated list, but the problem there is, as always, who has time to moderate it? But again, thanks for bringing this up. It's, well, annoying to search through the messages looking for linux info. ------- Vic replies: Being able to chitchat with the community about vaguely connected subjects, given things that we have in common, is very valuable. I like the idea of a "pure" Linux list for those who wish only to see messages on that subject, though I'm not one of them. A strictly_linux list might be very effective. It should be titled "strictly_linux". A stern warning should be appended to every message, something to this effect: THIS LIST STRICTLY RESERVED FOR DISCUSSION OF GNU/LINUX DISTRIBUTIONS, SYSTEM LEVEL CONFIGURATION, BOOT MANAGERS AND WINDOW MANAGERS. YOU WILL BE MODERATED if you do not stay on topic here. TAKE TANGENTS ELSEWHERE: CHANGE SUBJECT LINE AND/OR GO TO ANOTHER LIST WHEN CHANGING THE SUBJECT. The plug_discuss list is for other discussion of Free Software or FOSS community interest; the plug_devel list welcomes software development subjects including compiler and "make" questions. Moderation won't work - it kills responsiveness, unless we can afford a full-time moderator. But mailman does allow certain contributors to be targeted for moderation; this should be used by a few key people, with notification but no warning, for limited escalating periods, as needed for egregious OT-ing on the strictly_linux list. Note there is also the aztecofftopic list: , aztechofftopic-subscribe@yahoogroups.com We could all troop over there, for extremely OT discussions, but that is a more varied audience. Vic --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss