On a related note, I have found that if I allow my customers to delay payments, this may start a habit of delaying payments. In a few cases, I have been paid over 180 days after the completed job. I started reminding my customers about discounts for pre-paid work. And this helped in some cases. When I have a bad vibe with a potential customer, I tell them to pay upfront. Then I do the job -- and if the experience is bad, I won't do further work. Jeremy C. Reed BSD News, BSD tutorials, BSD links http://www.bsdnewsletter.com/ --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss