On Mon, 2005-02-14 at 17:32 -0700, Joseph Sinclair wrote: > As I've mentioned before, it is not possible to access the PLUG website > from much of the COX network due to a faulty route somewhere. I'm > trying to track down the point where the route goes bad in hopes of > getting the COX network staff off their collective hindquarters to > actually do something for a change. Hi Joseph, I am also using a Cox cable modem, but I have no problems reaching the plug website. I can't speak for the PLUG staff, but it appears to me that www.plug.phoenix.az.us resolves to 66.98.190.6 (as you indicated) which is IP space owned by a hosting company called "Everyone's Internet" out of Houston Texas (http://www.ev1.net). They appear to be hosting the website on Apache/Linux (good!) and using vhosts, which means it's probably not a dedicated server. Since they are using vhosts you can't surf directly to the resolved IP address. Apache is using the hostname requested in the URL to determine which site to serve up on the shared server. In fact, if you surf directly to http://66.98.190.6 you will be redirected to an SSL-encrypted site admin page (bad idea - IMHO!). As for traceroute falling down, well it's pretty common for hosting providers to drop icmp and udp traceroute packets. It's often a matter of survival for them. We can thank all the wormdows infestations for that. NOTE: your traceroute (and mine) fails at the last hop in Houston. Probably at ev1's front door. ;-) This is all guess work on my part, but here is a terminal log to base it on... $ dig +short www.plug.phoenix.az.us plug.phoenix.az.us. 66.98.190.6 $ whois -H 66.98.190.6 OrgName: Everyones Internet, Inc. OrgID: EVRY Address: 2600 Southwest Freeway Address: Suite 500 City: Houston StateProv: TX PostalCode: 77098 Country: US $ links http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?host=www.plug.phoenix.az.us "...running Apache on Linux when last queried at 15-Feb-2005 02:09:05 GMT" $ links http://www.plug.phoenix.az.us "Phoenix Linux Users Group :: Penguins in the Desert" $ links http://66.98.190.6 "Welcome Site/User Administrator" $ links http://httpd.apache.org/docs/vhosts/ "Apache Virtual Host documentation... ;-)" $ tracepath 66.98.190.6 1: {my-internal-firewall} (000.000.000.000) 2.639ms 2: 10.50.0.1 (10.50.0.1) 32.573ms 3: ip68-2-2-33.ph.ph.cox.net (68.2.2.33) 14.460ms 4: 68.2.13.238 (68.2.13.238) asymm 5 15.564ms 5: 68.2.13.134 (68.2.13.134) asymm 6 27.206ms 6: 68.2.13.34 (68.2.13.34) asymm 7 14.896ms 7: chnddsrc01-gew0304.rd.ph.cox.net (68.2.14.9) 15.194ms 8: chndbbrc01-pos0101.rd.ph.cox.net (68.1.0.164) 16.044ms 9: langbbrc01pos0401.r2.la.cox.net (68.1.1.228) asymm 10 29.053ms 10: 68.105.30.130 (68.105.30.130) 29.156ms 11: anhmca1wcx2-pos6-1-oc48.wcg.net (64.200.140.161) 28.947ms 12: hstntx1wcx2-pos1-0.wcg.net (64.200.240.65) asymm 14 53.532ms 13: hstntx1wcx1-pos6-0-oc48.wcg.net (65.77.93.209) asymm 14 48.519ms 14: hstntx1wce2-everyonesinternet-gige.wcg.net (65.77.93.54) asymm 16 49.910ms 15: ivhou-207-218-245-110.ev1.net (207.218.245.110) asymm 16 51.302ms 16: no reply 17: no reply 18: no reply Our traceroutes seem to meet at chndbbrc01-pos0101.rd.ph.cox.net (68.1.0.164) and stay together for the rest of the trip. Doesn't seem to be a problem with the Cox routing. ...Kevin --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss