awsome :-----Original Message----- :From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us :[mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf :Of Bill Earl :Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 9:42 AM :To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us :Subject: Re: Flat or Hourly Billing ?????? : :Eric, : :Just an fyi, you seem to be broadcasting your plug password in :the bottom of your message. You may want to change that :anyplace you've been using it. : :Bill Earl :Network Administrator :623-516-4700, ext. 113 :623-587-7787, fax :www.bestbill.com : : : :evb wrote: : :>How do you charge to rebuild a system from scratch? Flat or hourly? :> :>The reason I ask is because anyone who has done a rebuild :knows there's :>lots of standing around: put the disk in, start the installation :>process, make a phone call, kick the cat, repeat--for the :good part of two days. :> :>Building a system from scratch can take 12 hours of :non-continuous time :>by the time you install and configure and patch the OS, plus maybe :>10-15 applications and suites to go along with it. Add an :mail server, :>RADIUS, and web server and you've got yourself a machine that :needs an :>entire weekend of short bursts of time devoted to the rebuild. Your :>time sheet would look like " .3, .1, .2, .3, .2, .1, .6, .2, .3, .1, :>.2, .3, .2, .1, .1, .6, .2, ...n". :> :>So I don't see how you can very well charge hourly when rebuilding a :>machine. Wouldn't a flat fee would seem to be more :reasonable? And if :>a flat fee IS appropriate, what amount, given that rebuilding :a system :>demands so many short periods of time over several days. :> :>I am in a pickle here folks; can you help me out????? :> :> :>Eric :> :> :> :> :>:-----Original Message----- :>:From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us :>:[mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf :Of :>plug-discuss-request@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us :>:Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 7:39 AM :>:To: reply@evb.nulluser.com :>:Subject: Welcome to the "PLUG-discuss" mailing list :>: :>:Welcome to the PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us mailing list! :>:Welcome to PLUG-discuss the main list for general discussion :and chat. :>:IMPORTANT: This list is publicly archived and available :online. :>Though your email address will be concealed by the :software :to prevent :>spambots, please be aware that your email :is for posterity. If you :>have a problem with this, DON'T POST ::). Digests of this list are :>available at your personal :preferences URL. :>: :>:To post to this list, send your email to: :>: :>: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us :>: :>:General information about the mailing list is at: :>: :>: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss :>: :>:If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, ::switch to :>or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), :visit your :>subscription page at: :>: :>: :>:http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/options/plug-discuss/re :>ply%40evb.nulluser.com :>: :>: :>:You can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to: :>: :>: PLUG-discuss-request@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us :>: :>:with the word `help' in the subject or body (don't include the :>:quotes), and you will get back a message with instructions. :>: :>:You must know your password to change your options (including :>:changing the password, itself) or to unsubscribe. It is: :>: :>: :>: :>:If you forget your password, don't worry, you will receive a ::monthly :>reminder telling you what all your :lists.plug.phoenix.az.us mailing :>list passwords are, and how :to unsubscribe or change your options. :>:There is also a button on your options page that will email :your :>current password to you. :>: :>:You may also have your password mailed to you automatically :off of :>the Web page noted above. :>: :> :>--------------------------------------------------- :>PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us :>To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: :>http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss :> :> :> :> : :--------------------------------------------------- :PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us :To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: :http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss : --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss