rw> ... it might be the screensaver - and it seems to rw> be the case as I have disabled it and the machine rw> is not locking up now I've had that happen. In that case it's not technically the machine that's locking up, but X which is locking the terminal, or at least making it appear that way. The system is still quite alive. What I've been able to do in the past is ssh in and kill X. Useful information only if you have another system handy. Of course, that causes the current session to die, throwing you back out to the login screen, but it's better than having to reboot. -- Lynn --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss