[I can't give any advice on jobs and housing, cuz i have neither. lol i live in an apartment and go to college.] valley of the sun? have you ever been here?oppressive sun and crazy drivers. but close to california. and no snow. but then again i found after leaving the frozen tundra of Wisconsin I'm read to get back to snow and actual weather. it rained here off and on for the last week or so, the whole place freaked out. it's sad. but rightfully so, we are not really setup for a lot of rain. and of course driving with these people in the rain is funny. when we have normal weather they drive like maniacs, when the road gets wet suddenly it's dangerous. it's been cold here this winter. but that's cold compared to the summer temps. then there was a big storm, lol, and the news media was freaking out about a tornado. nothing happen'd to speak of. we have illegal immigration problems. we have a problem with children drowning in pools. we have a problem with people starting forest fires. we have crime just like any other city, but i've never been a victim since i've lived here. golf is good here, except it's an outdoor sport and the summers tough. they say 'it's a dry heat' whatever it's hot! they say "you're blood will thin out and you'll get used to the heat' i've been here 13 years and i still hate the heat. altho many ppl have no problems with the heat. maybe i complain too much. plug is great tho and i'm sure you'll like our installfests. altho we haven't had one for a couple of months. cuz of the holidays. meetings are good too, but you need to be willing to travel to make all of them. baseball is good, we won the world series in 2001 football is ok now that we have Dennis Green. hockey is good when it's not on strike of course. and despite my gloomy attitude i do like it here. lots of diversity and people seem to be very open and easy to talk to. i like that. that's my take, mike hoy --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss