it saw these drives a couple of days ago (I could start the installation) but now I can't even start it. it gets to the 'Debian GNU/Linux Installation Main Menu' page which informs me that '[n]o hard drives were detected.' I tried reseating the connectors but that didn't help any. Is there a utility that will test out the hard drives to see if they are at fault (I see that as unlikely seeing how there are two drives and both failed). When I put Mepis in it gets to the GUI and starts running out of memory. So I think of darn small linux. With dsl I get to 'Enter root partition.' Whether I enter /dev/hda1 or /dev/hdb1 it complains that, 'No such device or address while trying to determine filesize.' Actually, I think it mounts the swap drive since while it is loading the drive light is flashing. So I can't get a linux instalation on it. I will try to get to an install fest. Unfortunately, I work most days (even SAT and SUN) so finding days off that coincide with installfests will be difficult. 480-615-1310 --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss