I ordered 10 disks from Ubuntu when they offered their free disk giveaway. I thought I'd pass them out to people, and try Gnome 2.8 for myself. They arrived yesterday, nicely packaged in pretty cardboard double sleeves. There's a Live-CD and an installation CD in each package. I just spent an hour messing with the Live-CD, and I'm totally underwhelmed. It loads fast and has a nice layout of applications and system tools. Being largely a KDE user, I was impressed. Except it didn't have a driver for my very common Lexmark Z53 printer. Then I tried to go online and it all went downhill. After putting in my dialup information, everything died. No applications would load. Nautilus died. Couldn't even open a shell to see what happened. The modem would start, then die before dialing. Rebooted. Same. Rebooted again. Entered my dialup info again. This time I didn't try to go online right away. Instead, I tried to view the /etc/ppp files through Nautilus, and none of them would open in a text editor. Couldn't even start a text editor. Did Ctrl+Alt+F2 to a terminal to configure /etc/ppp by hand with Vi. After entering data into /etc/ppp/peers/pap-secrets and provider, I got error messages that there was meta-data corruption or somesuch when looking up the provider file: Oops. Kernel problems. It listed modules affected and it looked like everything. Well, that's all the time I'm going to spend on Ubuntu. I'm not asking for help fixing it. A Live-CD shouldn't have to be fixed or heavily configured by hand; it should just work, IMO, especially for something as simple as a dialup connection. There's no way I'm going to install it to my harddrive for a run. If anyone wants these disks, they're yours, or they go into the trash. Siri Amrit --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss