thx, i;m guessing that i don't need to remove the mbr,
that email was a bit hurried, i'm thinking now that i
must have installed grub to a different part of the
hdd instead of the mbr. therefore lilo had no reason
to be 'gone' it was still 'there' on the mbr and i
needed to put grub on the mbr and that would have
solved it. 

mike h
--- "Eric \"Shubes\"" <plug@shubes.net> wrote:

> mike hoy wrote:
> > hi,
> > 
> > i installed gentoo and chose grub. 
> > 
> > when i rebooted lilo was still there.
> > 
> > for an experiment i deleted an entire hdd and lilo
> was
> > still there. i guess it's hard to delete the mbr..
> > 
> > anyway how does one completely wipeout  a hdd with
> > linux?
> > 
> > i don't want my old lilo on my hdd.
> > 
> > question: do i have to install lilo again instead
> of
> > grub so that the old lilo will be gone?
> > 
> > confused,,
> > 
> > mike h
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> Mike,
> These types of questions are very educational for
> the group. It's often 
> enlighening to see what problems others encounter,
> and more importantly 
> the solutions.
> 
> I went to google and searched on "Linux remove mbr".
> The very first hit 
> was at M$, of all places:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315224
> I think you'll find a satisfactory answer there.
> 
>  From what it says, lilo can be removed from the MBR
> of a drive with 
> "lilo -u /dev/hda" (substitute appropriate drive
> designation). It 
> doesn't say how to remove the actual MBR, and I
> don't know how/why to do 
> that.
> 
> Hope that helps!
> 
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