On Sunday 07 November 2004 09:29, you wrote:

Your right


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>   But if the democrat folks did go back to their historic Jeffersonian
> roots and rejected their British Fabian Socialist 20th century, ruturned
> to small government, limited taxation, no entitlements, no foreign
> involvement, no invasions, then the D party would do very well indeed.
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>
> The only party beating that drum is the Libertarian party.
> Democrats are too socialist and Republicans are the Democrats of yesterday.
>
> J wrote:
> > On Sunday 07 November 2004 00:20, you wrote:
> >
> > Ya, wait til the she Clinton runs. That's going to be a fun show.
> > Millions of voters totally disgusted with both sides in this election
> > will turn out just to have a chance to vote against the female Clinton.
> > Doesn't even matter who or what the Republicans run against her - they
> > win. The democrats are cutting their own throats on that one.
> >
> > But if the democrat folks did go back to their historic Jeffersonian
> > roots and rejected their British Fabian Socialist 20th century, ruturned
> > to small government, limited taxation, no entitlements, no foreign
> > involvement, no invasions, then the D party would do very well indeed.
> >
> > And yes, it would be nice for Kalifornia to secede and choke on their
> > sprouts. Arizona could then have at least a functioning western border
> > that did not allow open entry unlike the southern useless one.
> >
> > Really, there is no fix. Both parties are the same power group.
> >
> >>I think the only political fix for this country would be for the coasts
> >> to secede and form a sensible, modern, European-style republic, and let
> >> the midwest and the south roll back to 1840 a step at a time.
> >>
> >>Then we can have Hillary for president of the coastal state.  Yay!
> >
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