On Sunday 07 November 2004 05:14, you wrote:
> On Sunday 07 November 2004 00:20, you wrote:
>
> Ya, wait til the she Clinton runs. That's going to be a fun show.
> Millions of voters totally disgusted with both sides in this election will
> turn out just to have a chance to vote against the female Clinton. Doesn't
> even matter who or what the Republicans run against her - they win.
> The democrats are cutting their own throats on that one.
>
> But if the democrat folks did go back to their historic Jeffersonian roots
> and rejected their British Fabian Socialist 20th century, ruturned to small
> government, limited taxation, no entitlements, no foreign involvement, no
> invasions, then the D party would do very well indeed.
>
> And yes, it would be nice for Kalifornia to secede and choke on their
> sprouts. Arizona could then have at least a functioning western border that
> did not allow open entry unlike the southern useless one.
>
> Really, there is no fix. Both parties are the same power group.
>

Mega-dittoes on that one!  

BTW, to bring this slightly on-topic, I hear we have allegations of e-vote 
fraud in Ohio.  Wouldn't it be humorous if the so-called "democratic 
underground" (Greg Palast and company) would sue and somehow get the suspect
votes thrown out, and Dubya would be forced to step down a few months into 
his term?  Won't happen, I suppose, because the Supremes wouldn't let it 
happen.  But it's a good cause for throwing out Diebold and going with an 
open-source voting system.

Vaughn

> > I think the only political fix for this country would be for the coasts
> > to secede and form a sensible, modern, European-style republic, and let
> > the midwest and the south roll back to 1840 a step at a time.
> >
> > Then we can have Hillary for president of the coastal state.  Yay!
>
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