I 'forgot' that attachments are 'prohibited' on this list...as the pea brain remembers. http://www.geocities.com/eculbert/pic_0005.jpg Sooo, here is the proof!! Knoppix 3.2 and gtkam d/l'd the picts... I guess it has been that long since I used the camera!!! I 'forgot' I even had that copy. So, I 'avoided' messing with the kernal/permissions/whatever was needed for the later revisions to d/l from the camera. Jim's (who is in a nursing home now) cheap camera is seen as a usb storage device and pops up as sda1 on the desktop and is 'unloadable' from there. This cheapie isn't. But he wouldn't let me take the picts with his camera. He is 'afraid' that linux will mess up stuff. Silly man!!! He had a 'limping' w98se machine that evenually crashed totally..this machine, and he blamed my running knoppix on it once for everything wrong with M$. The 'gateway' restore disks are corrupted is why it was limping after he attempted to restore from a virus he got somewhere. ===== Cyclists should expect and demand safe accommodation on our public roads, just as does every other user. Nothing more is expected. Nothing less is acceptable! Long live Knoppix!! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss