I got my free SUSE goodies from Novell a few weeks ago and thought I'd load it up on the laptop I'm taking to Defcon. I've gotta ask... WTF is up with YAST and networking? Is it *really* completely freaking broken but nobody talks about it? That's hard to believe... Here's what happened. I popped in the SUSE Pro 9.1 DVD and started the install. During the detect stage it paused for a few moments and then correctly identified the box as a 'Toshiba Satellite Pro 4600' - hot dang! I won't have to dork around selecting hardware 'cause it already knows about it! Well, no. Not really. It was just grand with everything except networking. It identified the Intel Pro 100 and the internal Toshiba wireless card (and on later installs a Cisco Aironet 350 as well) but no amount of coaxing would get either to work. With the Pro100, I watched with tcpdump as it sent happy little ARP requests inquiring about the gateway (and got nice, happy replies), but that's the closest it got to actually communicating - after 3 installs in all, Just In Case. Minor nuisance, I thought - I'll just burn the SUSE Pro 8.1 images onto disks and install that. Surely they've got the bugs out of that one, eh? Wrong-o. Same story, except it wasn't quite as pretty and didn't identify the hardware by name. Nice clean install followed by no network no matter how I coaxed it. Next, I popped in a Redhat 9 CD. Again, nice clean install... and, wonder of wonders: all the network stuff Just Works. I didn't even have to say please. I saw a mention in the SUSE 9.1 release notes that they can't ship firmware for wireless cards for some reason. OK, I'll cut em slack on that. But really, what's up with the Intel Pro 100? (I did quite a bit of googling too, btw) I'd still like to run SUSE to get used to it if I can get it to talk on a network. Anyone know the Magic Word required for that to happen? Maybe a totally paranoid Deny Absolutely Everything firewall ruleset? I didn't check for that... TIA, Steve btw, Anyone else heading to Vegas? --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss