On Thu, 1 Jul 2004, Patrick Fleming, EA wrote:

> Are you using the packages/tarballs from LTSP directly? I looked at them
> and decided that I wanted a more 'prepackaged' solution and grabbed the
> ISOs from the K12LTSP project for my office.

We are using a SuSE server which is also used for other things.

K12LTSP 4.0 uses Fedora Core 1. But K12LTSP 4.0.1 uses old, out-of-date
Red Hat 8.0. (Maybe http://www.k12ltsp.org/contents.html is wrong.)

Also, I don't want a complete install solution of KDE, GNOME etc.

> > One idea is to use ltspacp (contrib) to copy apps to the LTSP tree. But
> > this means you install the software on the server first and then the files
> > aren't registered for easy cleanup. (I need an easy solution so others can
> > easily update the /opt/ltsp/i386 software.)
> The apps in /opt/ltsp/i386 aren't really used beyond login are they? As
> part of the login process there is a pivot_root action that changes root
> from the /opt/ltsp/i386 to / on the LTSP machine. Once logged in that's
> where all the apps run from.

Yes. I meant that the server admins can easily update /opt/ltsp/i386 on
the server. Overwriting with new software is not the best solution. Using
a proper package registration to delete files is better.

> > Are there ready-to-install replacements for busybox tools for LTSP 4?
> >
> Are you trying to remove the busybox functionality that is usually the
> front end to pxe booting? I haven't seen it used much beyond that.

It is used for everything. If you boot to LTSP using the "shell" service
instead of "startx" then you will see that many essential tools (like
find, dmesg, tee, ed, vi)) are missing and other tools have limited
functionality (like grep).

To me it doesn't make sense to use lightweight busybox tools, but still
use real XFree86 server.

> > I am considering just using pkgsrc (which is a package build framework)
> > for creating my own LTSP alternative. Basically, the only parts I need to
> > copy from LTSP or recreate are: pxelinux and some simple booting configs.
> >
> > Anyone here interested in helping or testing a new thin-client solution?
>
> I  might be willing to play with some of this provided it doesn't take
> too much time from trying to run my own stuff.

Okay, I'll let you know as I research some more.

I already build Linux package using pkgsrc. So all I need to do is to try
do boot with the pxelinux and my own software instead of LTSP.

 Jeremy C. Reed

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