On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 12:17:27 -0700, steve trezise wrote: > > I agree that workflows are difficult to grok, (they have been for me). [...] > There is something of a learning curve, and quite a few moving parts. > But there is a lot of built-in functionality that comes along with that, > when you figure out where the levers are. Just one thing about this arguement... When you decide to take up kit cars as a hobby, you don't expect the kit car company to make you mine and smelt your own iron, manufacture your own set of tap & dies, trim wool off a sheep for your upholstery, process your own berries into paint, refine your own crude oil for wire sheathing. This definately is a 'learning curve', but boy oh boy would the kit car industry suffer if everyone in it were expected to smelt, shear and knit, make paint, refine oil. I read "Managing Enterprise Content: A Unified Content Strategy". After that, I could very easily put my workflows down on paper. I expected the paper workflows to translate easily into Zope. They do have places to make workflows, actions, and roles, but no custom content with metadata, except buit from scratch in the Zope engine. So I'm making a kit car with completely upholstered seats, built radio and lighting... but no pig iron except the stuff I smelt myself. "It's a learning curve" my foot. Don't succumb to the idea that "learning more" will help you beat it, it's like the car industry expecting you to have your own personal iron mine and refinery. Now if they say the product is incomplete and the features will be installed later, then I'd understand. Just like stored procedures and nested selects in MySQL, it's a work in progress, they're working on it, for now we have these features, other features are yet to come. But not even this claim is made in the Zope community. How far would MySQL have gotten if instead of actually working on nested selects, they published book after book on temporary tables, and claimed that your inability to make nested selects was part of your "learning curve"? -- --Alexander --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss