Hello All, I hope I didn't get off on the wrong foot with you guys with my first post, :-( . I have read all your thoughtful comments to date and you have some good points. Bill Jonas got the first lick in and said what a lot of you apparently feel, the e-mail list method is good enough. He also has a good point about "in-your-face" delivery and having to actually go to the effort of a login to a forum. However, every forum site I've seen will allow you to be notified of activity at whatever level you wish to subscribe to - with a hyperlink to the new post or changed section - which you can then read without logging in, unless you wish to reply. I'll also grant you that the subscriber base here is rather small, perhaps there wouldn't be the traffic necessary to sustain a thriving forum based community. It seems to me that if folks will wade through these e-mails then they would happily replace that effort with a simple login and the ability to selectively browse threads, threads which would have a bit more persistence than these. Sometimes I don't login to my favorite site, www.extremetech.com, for several days but I know I can catch up whenever I want to and will be able to easily follow the discussions. I guess it is the visually unappealing style of the e-mails that bothers me most and a close second would be the fact that you cannot see the whole thread as effectively as with a forum. It makes my head hurt just looking at the messages with all the "baggage" of the reply-to e-mail, which usually already contains 2 other previously copied posts, just so that you can keep the thread intact; not to mention all the sigs and pgp keys and weird carriage returns etc etc... (no offense intended, but they are visual annoyances, at least to me). There's a lot of clutter to sift through to get to the payload. Probably I am just a whiny b*st*rd (who, by the way, has no web skills to implement a forum on his own :-[ ) that should have kept his gub shut. I'll now go back to "lurker" mode... --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss