> > ... but Linux is getting darn close. It will take > a few more years of hammering the desktop into > shape, with Linux vendors packaging and training > for full productivity. VB, Access and Visual > Studio need to be challenged by Linux tools that > are just as productive. (I don't currently know > what these alternatives are ... can anyone fill > me in? How good are the conversion tools for > migration from the MS equivalents?) hmmm rekall(http://www.rekallrevealed.org/index.shtml) and openoffice(http://www.openoffice.org) for Access. I haven't used Visual Studio in a while so I'm not sure but maybe eclipse and wxPython(http://wxpython.org/), kylix (???) again I'm not too sure what the major draw of Visual Studio is so I may be wrong. For VB that's easy Ruby, Python, and PHP all work *much* better than VB in my opinion and they all have various IDEs (I think eclipse will work with all of them) again its been over 5 years since I've worked with vb in any meaningful way but I don't see *any* advantage of VB over ruby, python, php, perhaps even perl (I don't *really* code in perl either though). Check out Komodo (http://www.activestate.com/Products/Komodo/?_x=1), Zend Studio (http://www.zend.com/store/products/zend-studio.php), and freeride (http://freeride.rubyforge.org/wiki/wiki.pl?ScreenShots) -- Carl Parrish (cparrish@carlparrish.com) http://www.carlparrish.com --- Registered Linux User #295761 http://counter.li.org --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss