i got 3 of the machines before i posted that they were there. pretty much they have the same hardware confige that you describe. i tried to put medpis on one; no luck. it would run live but wouldn't let me do an install to the hdd. and live was too slow. put redhat 9 on it and it works fine. i'm using the gui. i was just going to eventually find homes for them with students i have contact with. now i just need some ext. modems ;-) i don't think they are worth selling except for parts. but what do i know. btw thanks for the info. on finding which version of mozilla i have. i do have an older version 1.2 i think. anyway i got the disk from mozsource and installed 1.6 but it did not replace my old version. i was hoping to use n-vu with it and get rid of windoze with dreamweaver. but it has to be easier (read; more intuitive) for me to be at that point. maybe i'll have to wait for dreamweaver to be linux friendly :-[ betty i -- www.webcanine.com information for people who care for dogs Observare porta non oportet fila domestica photos of our dogs www.wolfila.homestead.com --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss