On Monday 09 February 2004 7:28 am, Chris Gehlker wrote: > On Feb 8, 2004, at 11:01 PM, Ted Gould wrote: > > On Sun, 2004-02-08 at 22:11, Chris Gehlker wrote: > >> My point was only that if they provide vDSL then the line quality is > >> good enough for other forms of DSL as well. I wouldn't guess the rat= e > >> has anything to do with the drop on release problem either. > > > > Actually, I was talking to one of the Qwest techs and he said that in > > the areas that they've installed vDSL it seems like it interferes wit= h > > the other DSLs. Also, considering how different the network > > architecture is, having one doesn't imply the other. The line qualit= y > > for the short distance might be good enough - but that doesn't mean > > there is equipment at the end of the line. > > That interesting about vDSL interfering with the other kinds. I do > believe they said that they had the equipment for old DSL wherever the > line would support it. > Also not quite true. I've talked with my Qwest Rep many times about how=20 exactly Qwest decides to rollout ADSL in a particular neighborhood. =20 Basically, the equipment is rather expensive and their 'litmus' test for = it=20 is if they can pay it off in 5 years with projected subscriber installs. = If=20 they don't think that X number of people who will be qualified for the=20 service will sign up and stick around for 5 years, then they don't roll i= t=20 out. Flagstaff and Sedona (until very recently) are examples of areas th= at=20 were more than qualified line-wise, but did not have 'hot' Central Office= s. vDSL seems to be the bastard child that half the company wants to forget.= =20 Every other time I talk to Qwest, they are 'phasing it out' and 'not=20 accepting any new subscribers' and then I'll talk to a customer who has=20 gotten literature about it. I think that they are keeping the service on= the=20 downlow so that the PUC doesn't force them to open the ISP side to=20 competitors. =20 As for vDSL vs ADSL availability. They are two completely different=20 technologies that run in completely different frequency ranges. Having o= ne=20 does not infer you can receive the other, nor does it necessarily preclud= e=20 it.=20 --=20 Kyle Faber Account Manager EMR Internet kyle@emr.net 623-581-0842 voice 623-582-9499 fax UNIX is a registered trademark of The Open Group in the United States and= =20 other countries.