I clipped this from the distro war [YMMV, but MY ...] and thought it was worthy of its own thread. >>> You can run the up2date or yast via a systrace mechanism to see what it does. And the code is available to review. Jeremy C. Reed http://www.reedmedia.net/ <<< Ok, I'm curious now. Is a systrace a tool or a technique? I did an `apt-cache search systrace` and nothing turned up (debian stable). Should I be looking for an application or what? Any help is appreciated, Bart