betty wrote: > oops, so sorry, you are absolutely right, i didn't follow the thread > :-[ skimming the posts these days, very busy dog training time... > o.k. rob; just pick up that advice from everyone. > betty i > Thanks all for the advice. I have to say that parents hating me is a new experience for me, and that I am trying to be a nice around the mom at all times. However, if I am going to give someone flowers or candy, it will be the g/f... Where can I get a "I rooted your daughter" shirt? That would be cool.