Carl - I am no Linux Chess expert (yet) - But I think http://www.freechess.org/ might be what you need. It also looks like http://www.chessclub.com/ might have free parts to it. And of course, http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=2510 gives a great summary about Chess and Linux. Good luck! > > From: plug-discuss-request@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > Date: 2003/11/30 Sun PM 02:00:04 EST > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > Subject: PLUG-discuss digest, Vol 1 #4178 - 8 msgs > > Send PLUG-discuss mailing list submissions to > plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > plug-discuss-request@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > You can reach the person managing the list at > plug-discuss-admin@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of PLUG-discuss digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Head to Head Chess (Carl Parrish) > 2. Re: Head to Head Chess (Deepak Saxena) > 3. Re: Head to Head Chess (Anthony Boynes) > 4. Re: Head to Head Chess (Frank Mandato) > 5. Re: Zope, PHP, MySQL Consulting, hosting multiple domains (John Tynan) > 6. Re: Head to Head Chess (Carl Parrish) > 7. Re: GUI Development Libraries (Derek Neighbors) > 8. Re: GUI Development Libraries (Nathan England) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > Subject: Head to Head Chess > From: Carl Parrish > To: Plug-discuss > Organization: > Date: 29 Nov 2003 12:00:29 -0700 > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > Okay this may be considered OT (perhaps we should have a plug-games > list). I want to teach my gf chess. I love the way in xboard with > gnuchess I can save and analyze moves play back and show where mistakes > are made etc... I've got a lan at home so I figure it would be trivial > to play with her and then go over the games we play. How ever so far the > only way I see around this is to get us both set up on a pay IRC server > and play. Not that I'm closed on this option but I'm thinking there > *has* to be a way I can do this for free. Anyone have any suggestions? > -- > Carl Parrish (cparrish@carlparrish.com) > http://www.carlparrish.com > --- > Registered Linux User #295761 http://counter.li.org > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:07:00 -0700 > From: Deepak Saxena > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > Subject: Re: Head to Head Chess > Organization: Plexity Networks > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > On Nov 29 2003, at 12:00, Carl Parrish was caught saying: > > Okay this may be considered OT (perhaps we should have a plug-games > > list). I want to teach my gf chess. I love the way in xboard with > > gnuchess I can save and analyze moves play back and show where mistakes > > are made etc... I've got a lan at home so I figure it would be trivial > > to play with her and then go over the games we play. How ever so far the > > only way I see around this is to get us both set up on a pay IRC server > > and play. Not that I'm closed on this option but I'm thinking there > > *has* to be a way I can do this for free. Anyone have any suggestions? > > Never used either gnuchess or xboard, so may not understand all the > issues, but can'y you just run an IRC server at home? > > ~Deepak > > -- > Deepak Saxena - dsaxena@plexity.net > > Art inherently reaches out an touches people and causes them to think > and feel. Those who creates music, film, games, or other media and > say that it has no meaning or does not impact peoples behaviour > are not artists. These people are simply entertainment prostitutes > whoreing themselves to the highest bidder. - Me > > --__--__-- > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:11:22 -0800 (PST) > From: Anthony Boynes > Subject: Re: Head to Head Chess > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > I dont thin you can. > > http://www.tim-mann.org/xboard/FAQ.html#[B.8] > > > --- Carl Parrish wrote: > > Okay this may be considered OT (perhaps we should > > have a plug-games > > list). I want to teach my gf chess. I love the way > > in xboard with > > gnuchess I can save and analyze moves play back and > > show where mistakes > > are made etc... I've got a lan at home so I figure > > it would be trivial > > to play with her and then go over the games we play. > > How ever so far the > > only way I see around this is to get us both set up > > on a pay IRC server > > and play. Not that I'm closed on this option but I'm > > thinking there > > *has* to be a way I can do this for free. Anyone > > have any suggestions? > > -- > > Carl Parrish (cparrish@carlparrish.com) > > http://www.carlparrish.com > > --- > > Registered Linux User #295761 http://counter.li.org > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - > > PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail > > settings: > > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now > http://companion.yahoo.com/ > > --__--__-- > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:13:24 -0700 > From: Frank Mandato > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > Subject: Re: Head to Head Chess > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > Carl, > > you ever consider building a chatroom on your website? Should not be > difficult writing a java based program to implement one. Of course, I > have no idea how to write anything like that, so I am very interested in > finding out how it is done. > > I have been thinking about this for some time now since I find it is > an easy way for friends and family to get together without having to use > yahoo messenger or even worse msn or aol. > > Have great day! > > FrankM > > Carl Parrish wrote: > > >Okay this may be considered OT (perhaps we should have a plug-games > >list). I want to teach my gf chess. I love the way in xboard with > >gnuchess I can save and analyze moves play back and show where mistakes > >are made etc... I've got a lan at home so I figure it would be trivial > >to play with her and then go over the games we play. How ever so far the > >only way I see around this is to get us both set up on a pay IRC server > >and play. Not that I'm closed on this option but I'm thinking there > >*has* to be a way I can do this for free. Anyone have any suggestions? > > > > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:22:49 -0800 (PST) > From: John Tynan > Subject: Re: Zope, PHP, MySQL Consulting, hosting multiple domains > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > While my plate is nearly full, I have some experience > with Zope and may be able to offer some help or at > least some suggestions. > > What are you looking to do with zope? > > John T. > > ---------- > > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > From: "var-man" > Subject: Zope, PHP, MySQL Consulting, hosting multiple > domains > Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:04:14 -0800 (PST) > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > Does anyone in the group have experience with Zope? We > need a little help with each item in the subject line. > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now > http://companion.yahoo.com/ > > --__--__-- > > Message: 6 > Subject: Re: Head to Head Chess > From: Carl Parrish > To: Plug-discuss > Organization: > Date: 29 Nov 2003 14:21:29 -0700 > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > If I knew ppl would use it I would put one up. but *no* one uses my > forums so I have to wonder if there is any interest. > > Carl P. > > On Sat, 2003-11-29 at 12:13, Frank Mandato wrote: > > Carl, > > > > you ever consider building a chatroom on your website? Should not be > > difficult writing a java based program to implement one. Of course, I > > have no idea how to write anything like that, so I am very interested in > > finding out how it is done. > > > > I have been thinking about this for some time now since I find it is > > an easy way for friends and family to get together without having to use > > yahoo messenger or even worse msn or aol. > > > > Have great day! > > > > FrankM > > > > Carl Parrish wrote: > > > > >Okay this may be considered OT (perhaps we should have a plug-games > > >list). I want to teach my gf chess. I love the way in xboard with > > >gnuchess I can save and analyze moves play back and show where mistakes > > >are made etc... I've got a lan at home so I figure it would be trivial > > >to play with her and then go over the games we play. How ever so far the > > >only way I see around this is to get us both set up on a pay IRC server > > >and play. Not that I'm closed on this option but I'm thinking there > > >*has* to be a way I can do this for free. Anyone have any suggestions? > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- > Carl Parrish (cparrish@carlparrish.com) > http://www.carlparrish.com > --- > Registered Linux User #295761 http://counter.li.org > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 7 > Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:44:46 -0700 > From: Derek Neighbors > Organization: GNU Enterprise > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > Subject: Re: GUI Development Libraries > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > Vaughn Treude wrote: > > That brings up another issue. I don't know about Gtk, but QT is extremely > > cross-platform, you get libraries for and recompile it on Mac and Windows. > > But if I'm not mistaken, the non-Linux platforms don't have free versions, > > and all of the commerical licenses are quite expensive - somewhere around a > > thousand bucks. A cheaper alternative for commercial QT projects is to use > > ... > > > my next project. I'd like to go with Qt, especially since I prefer C++ - but > > due to cost issues, if it's a commercial thing I'd be inclined to go with > > Gtk+. > > You should look at wxWindows. It is C++ and extremely cross platform. > It is also free as in beer and speech. There is a very good Python > version as well called wxPython. > > -Derek > > --__--__-- > > Message: 8 > Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:16:38 -0700 > From: Nathan England > Organization: Phoenix Linux Users Group > Subject: Re: GUI Development Libraries > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Am 29 Samstag, November 2003 06:41 vormittags schrieb Vaughn Treude: > > I'm not too worried about buying the license for QT to sell Windows apps. I= > =20 > would only be doing linux front ends. But eventually, I do want the option = > of=20 > a windows frontend. So the 1200 for the license doesn't bother me. Besides,= > I=20 > buy the license and I can sell to my hearts content. > > Thanks all. > > Nathan > > > That brings up another issue. I don't know about Gtk, but QT is extremely > > cross-platform, you get libraries for and recompile it on Mac and Windows. > > But if I'm not mistaken, the non-Linux platforms don't have free versions, > > and all of the commerical licenses are quite expensive - somewhere around= > a > > thousand bucks. A cheaper alternative for commercial QT projects is to > > use Borland's Kylix, which embeds the QT libraries. Kylix has a free > > version and a commercial version (around $300 or so) and you can use eith= > er > > C++ or their Delphi-style Object Pascal. Support is pretty crappy, though > > - you have to pay extra for just about everything, and good Kylix books a= > re > > hard to find. Even so, it's fairly powerful, and with a little digging you > > can usually find solutions on the Web. Another downside is that Kylix ap= > ps > > have a pretty big memory footprint, starting at 8MB when you first fire > > them up. Despite the fact that Kylix is a reasonably good IDE, I'll > > probably try something else on my next project. I'd like to go with Qt, > > especially since I prefer C++ - but due to cost issues, if it's a > > commercial thing I'd be inclined to go with Gtk+. > > > > Vaughn Treude > > Nakota Software, INc. > > > > On Friday 28 November 2003 21:17, you wrote: > > > Another thing regarding QT: > > > It is one of the most common GUI systems in embedded apps..Sharp > > > Zarious, for instance, uses QT..though they are using the Embedded > > > versoin, which costs dollars. > > > > > > On Fri, 2003-11-28 at 17:38, Kurt Granroth wrote: > > > > On Nov 28, 2003, at 12:26 AM, Nathan England wrote: > > > > > Has anyone come across any comparative articles discussing benefits > > > > > of Gtk+, > > > > > QT, and the benefits of one over the other? > > > > > I'm interested in any good articles. Any recommendations? > > > > > I'm not talking about KDE vs. Gnome. I want just the library > > > > > information. > > > > > > > > There are lots of reasons for going with one or the other.. but in my > > > > experience, it always comes down to the these two: > > > > > > > > 1. Gtk+ is C, Qt is C++ > > > > 2. Gtk+ is free to use for commercial projects, Qt isn't > > > > > > > > For instance, I tend to always gravitate towards C++ given a choice. > > > > I've done some Gtk+ programming over the years (mostly back in the day > > > > during my attempts at cross-desktop interoperability) and I've always > > > > found it extremely frustrating. It's a PITA to do any kind of > > > > programming using Gtk+ while Qt makes it nearly trivial... to me. I'= > ve > > > > run across scores of people that had the exact opposite reaction, > > > > though. C is the only language to use while C++ just adds unnecessary > > > > cruft. I haven't run across all that many people that have liked BOTH > > > > Gtk+ and Qt, though. > > > > > > > > Really, both a very full-featured. Get a few tutorials on programming > > > > for both and try them out yourselves. I'd bet that you'd discover > > > > pretty quickly which one you preferred. > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: > > > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: > > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > =2D --=20 > > Nathan England > > nathan at the-arcanum.org > jabber id: linuxjunkie@jabber.earth.li > > "A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular." > =2D --Adlai Stevenson > > > Registered Linux User #189789, Machine #106603 > www.sincerechoice.org > > > Todays Fortune: > > Carelessly planned projects take three times longer to complete than > expected. Carefully planned projects take four times longer to > complete than expected, mostly because the planners expect their > planning to reduce the time it takes. > =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQE/yX04nIZkEnRTrK0RAhhmAKCDSac+Fnh3Xbj1uSZDDvSV7WxAFwCghxuO > AMx7sFmUaGszONUPwFDY9D8=3D > =3DJnzx > =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > End of PLUG-discuss Digest >