I understand that having too many hubs and/or switches is never a problem. Therefore, if you have either .or. both, we wouldn't get upset if you brought then. The same thing goes for patch cords. Also, maybe some wireless stuff. There is some question concerning the idea that UAT might be nervous about interfering with their wireless network. I haven't gotten an answer on this one. So, if we have some there and don't use them, no loss. However, if we don't have them and we could have put them to good use, our loss. oh... and by the way... Thanks a lot to all who have jumped in and helped on this event. With this kind of enthusiasm, anyone think MS has a chance??? Thanks again George