We ended up nating the Public IPs to themselves on the DMZ. ---RANT--- I am really disappointed with this purchase. Cisco routers I find are very buggy and am continually fighting them. PIX firewalls, it looks like are very similar. If you have a basic setup their equip works usually without fail (Leased line, frame-relay, isdn). If you are trying to use more advanced technologies such as ATM, IMA,..., you run into memory leaks and missing functionality. The only plus I find with Cisco is the fact that they have a lot of support. Equipment is also plentiful. If I had the budget and the time, I would switch our backbone to Juniper Networks. ---END RANT--- Gilbert --- [ This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Phoenix Internet ] [ Phoenix Internet www.phoenixinternet.net ]