I spoke to soon. Creating a new device worked for the floppy but did not work for the cd-rom. When I click on it the response is: The desktop entry file /home/knoppix/Desktop/CD-ROM Device is of type FSDevice but has no Dev=... entry. I just knew I should have checked it but thought that sinse making the new device on the desktop made the floppy work it would make the CDRom work too. Darn. -- <:-)~MIKE~(-:>