What does this download? I would think that it would download a file with a list of files and their version number. Right? Then when you run apt-get upgrade it would compare that list with a list of files on your system and download those files that differ. BUT NO! I run apt-get update and it downloads a bunch of files that I am not sure what they contain. And then apt-get upgrade downloads the files again (because I don't know what the first file it downloaded was). So what exactly does apt-get update give you? -- <:-)~MIKE~(-:>