Am 14. Sep, 2003 schw=E4tzte Rob Wultsch so: I don't mind a company standing behind a distribution and making money on it. Heck, I'm trying to get something like that here in the Valley :). We know about Lindows due to the name and probably some business connection= s that could get them publicity. I'm sure lots of companies are like that. A friend ordered a wal-mart Lindows PC on my recommendation. It looked slick. It defaulted to logging in as root, as you note in #3 below. I replaced Lindows with debian. > I have been reading about lindows some and it seems to me that some of > the hostility directed towards it might be iladvised. > > 1. First it is debian underneath that many of use know and love. > 2. Every review claims that it is easly to install. Irrelevant if it's coming pre-installed :). That they're getting companies to pre-install it is great. > 3. Why running as root always might not be the smatest idea, it will > make it much easier for a windows newbie to start to undestand the > fundamentals. No. There needs to be a clear line between root and non-root users. That's like saying every passenger in the car should have access to the steering wheel. Heck, they should be encouraging multiple user accounts rather than one-size fits all. It is simple enough to have a GUI tool that invokes things via sudo. It would be easy enough to have menu stuff automagically use that tool. Via sudo they could still have passwordless entry to root ( I think that's stil= l foolish, but not near as bad ). This would also make it possible to keep the kids from easily getting root. Do we really want to make it easy to move /bin to something else? > 4. It is a suscription based service as much as it is an OS. So most of > the programs are availible for free (as in both), but does that mean > that they will apt-get nicely? If Lindows can keep installation easy and > bug free then is that not worth paying for? As long as they make security updates no-cost and easily installable I'm fine with them charging for upgrade of non-security updates. Same thing goe= s for Red Hat, Mandrake, et al. > In case you were wondering I saw these recently and they sparked my > interest: > http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpN= o=3D608176 > (a diskless workstation for $169 which appears to have a kde desktop) POP on a diskless workstation appears to be rather foolish :). ciao, der.hans --=20 # https://www.LuftHans.com/ http://www.AZOTO.org/ # We now return you to your regularly scheduled paranoia...