I have been reading about lindows some and it seems to me that some of the hostility directed towards it might be iladvised. 1. First it is debian underneath that many of use know and love. 2. Every review claims that it is easly to install. 3. Why running as root always might not be the smatest idea, it will make it much easier for a windows newbie to start to undestand the fundamentals. 4. It is a suscription based service as much as it is an OS. So most of the programs are availible for free (as in both), but does that mean that they will apt-get nicely? If Lindows can keep installation easy and bug free then is that not worth paying for? In case you were wondering I saw these recently and they sparked my interest: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=608176 (a diskless workstation for $169 which appears to have a kde desktop) http://www.sub300.com/port.htm (a 2.9 lb notebook that comes with a linux variant for under $800) -- .-. =------------------------------ /v\ ----------------------------= Robert Wultsch // \\ robert.wultsch@asu.edu Linux User /( )\ AIM:sheepsleep7 Don't fear the penguins ^^-^^ (602)6927564