Thanks in advance for any possible help... I am getting really sick of playing with this. Ok I tried the direction found at http://www.linuxathome.net/iptables.php and at this point I am having no joy. The pump command command should work when iptables are used right? I think I see some sort of error about a name on bootup, but it goes so fast I can not tell. Where is that log stored in debian? Here is my situlation internet | wirless ISP (192.168.1.1) air my ancient computer with pcmcia 802.11b (192.168.1.9 assighned by dhcp) | my other computers (?) At this point I would love to get this working in linux, but I would be only slightly less happy to get it going as a stopgap through xp... I just cut and pasted the suggested iptable stuff from the above url.