On Mon, 11 Aug 2003, technomage wrote: > I'd rather be able to do it without having to tail a log file. basically, I > was direct access to the tty that the kernel uses to report dtat to syslogd. It is not a TTY, the syslog data is sent through the UNIX domain socket (like /dev/log or /var/run/log). But that is not the kernel, that is done by libc's syslog(3). The kernel's logging can be accessed via a system call, but normally you would read /proc/kmsg. Jeremy C. Reed http://bsd.reedmedia.net/ p.s. My syslogd man page has: 5. Use step 4 and if the problem persists and is not secondary to a rogue program/daemon get a 3.5 ft (approx. 1 meter) length of sucker rod* and have a chat with the user in question. Sucker rod def. -- 3/4, 7/8 or 1in. hardened steel rod, male threaded on each end. Primary use in the oil industry in Western North Dakota and other locations to pump 'suck' oil from oil wells. Sec ondary uses are for the construction of cattle feed lots and for dealing with the occasional recalci trant or belligerent individual.