I am willing to try co-coordinating the next InstallFest. Hopefully Michael will also be willing to co-coordinate it with me. My philosophy on managing a project within a volunteer organization (no legitimate authority) such as PLUG, is to provide answers and allow the powers that be (members) to shoot (refine) them down as needed. Such things as: We have selected a preliminary date of xx/xx/xxxx. Speak now or forever hold your peace. We have selected xyz as the location. Speak now or forever hold your peace. However, we are going to need help (read volunteers). Volunteers like Michelle who seems to have found an attractive location (site). Volunteers to coordinate such things as who will provide how many of which distros to give away. Volunteers to .... Together I think we can pull this off with minimum burden to any one person. All those in favor ... All those opposed ... -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: Next InstallFest Am 25. Jun, 2003 schw=E4tzte George Gambill so: > Is there anything working on a "next" InstallFest? We have had an offer to host from "The Front" in Peoria. I believe they als= o have other locations around town. Maybe run mini-InstallFests at multiple locations? Probably too much work at this point, though. We also have an offer from elite pc in Tempe, but I think their facility is too small for a full-sized InstallFest. We've also been invited back to SCC and I'm betting we can get into GCC again as well. What we need are volunteers to run the project. To be fair to Michael, who was going to lead it, I was slow in responding before, plus we lost our offer at U of Phoenix due to the department that was sponsoring us getting slashed. Also, bring the box down to the GNU/Linux Stammtisch. We help people every month. That's the 3rd Tue night of every month at Bandersnatch in Tempe. ciao, der.hans --=20 # https://www.LuftHans.com/ http://www.AZOTO.org/ # The only way for a woman to change a man # is if he's wearing Depends[TM] - der.hans --__--__-- Message: 12 From: "Thomas Cameron" To: "PLUG" Subject: Re: Cable/Dial-Up failover Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 09:47:13 -0500 Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us I wrote a watchdog for a client that ran via cron (can't find it now, and the client no longer uses dialup). Every minute it pinged the next hop 5 times. If the ping failed, it ran ifup ppp0 and changed the default route to the ppp0 route. -- Thomas Cameron, RHCE, CNE, MCSE, MCT Cameron Technical Services, Inc. (512) 454-3200 Main http://www.camerontech.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryce C" To: "PLUG" Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 11:44 PM Subject: Cable/Dial-Up failover --__--__-- Message: 13 Subject: Re: COX blocks outbound smtp From: David Mandala To: Plug Organization: THEM Date: 27 Jun 2003 09:22:05 -0700 Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Noticed a new fun feature that COX has implemented. If you connect to their SMTP severs from outside their network to relay mail they don't refuse it, they black hole it and dump the mail. They don't properly refuse it just accept it and dump it! That is a big problem. My wife's notebook had been setup with the necessary forward command and then she took the laptop to her new job. Fortunately the first email she sent was to me, when she did not hear back from me she called. I checked her mail logs, saw the message was sent and accepted for delivery. It NEVER arrived. Then I reset her mail server to send directly and had her resend the mail, I got it in seconds. Anyway long story short, be careful if you use a laptop or you may lose outbound mail. Cheers, Davidm -- David IS Mandala gpg fingerprint 8932 E7EF CCF5 1B8C 1B5C A92E C678 795E 45B2 D952 Phoenix, AZ (480) 460-7545 HP, (602) 741-1363 CP http://www.them.com/~davidm/ --__--__-- Message: 14 Subject: Re: COX blocks outbound smtp From: Craig White To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: 27 Jun 2003 10:12:03 -0700 Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 09:22, David Mandala wrote: > Noticed a new fun feature that COX has implemented. If you connect to > their SMTP severs from outside their network to relay mail they don't > refuse it, they black hole it and dump the mail. They don't properly > refuse it just accept it and dump it! > > That is a big problem. My wife's notebook had been setup with the > necessary forward command and then she took the laptop to her new job. > Fortunately the first email she sent was to me, when she did not hear > back from me she called. > > I checked her mail logs, saw the message was sent and accepted for > delivery. It NEVER arrived. Then I reset her mail server to send > directly and had her resend the mail, I got it in seconds. > > Anyway long story short, be careful if you use a laptop or you may lose > outbound mail. > ---- Makes good sense to me - are they going to generate an email for everyone who wants to use their mail server from an unknown source? Where would they send the email to? The fictitous return address used by spammers? Craig --__--__-- _______________________________________________ PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss End of PLUG-discuss Digest