I don't know, when I run Mandrake update I get the hour glass for a couple of minutes then nothing. I've tried it 4 times using both KDE and IceWn desktops. I can browse out to the internet with no problem so my network connection is good. I should get some more time to work on it this weekend. I did download the Knopix last night and will burn the CD and try it too. On the Win98 front, I help manage out network here with about 60 Win98 SE desktops. Many of our users are completely computer illiterate. (Some still think the monitor is the computer.) We rarely have a system go down. All in all, I've found Windows 98 SE to be an extremely STABLE and user friendly system in spite of all the hype otherwise. -----Original Message----- From: tickticker [mailto:tickticker@cox.net] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 5:15 PM To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Subject: Re: Good Bye Gnome, Hello KDE, I hope I just installed mandrake 9.1 and it's rock solid. I have put it thru a heinous workload too. I have a couple mandrake 9.0 boxes that have been up over a year. I also have 2 RH7.3 servers with BOTH Gnome and KDE.. this support email, web and database for over 1400 users. Neither gui has crashed once in the 5 months it's been up. These are stock, untweaked installs of the whole gui system. Mandrake's update works great on all my mandrake systems (5). I would suggest there is something other than the distributions at fault here. Perhaps your package choices or netwrking setups. My wifes 98SE box crashes daily or more. I think it's a breeze kicking up. Or she moved the mouse. I can't tell. Oh yeah, I have installed 98SE more than 20,000 times, and it never suprises me anymore how fair weather of a system it is. anthony On Thursday 12 June 2003 01:08 pm, Tom Achtenberg wrote: > Phil, I had the same problems with my RH 7.3 box. It was much less stable > than my Windows 98 box! I finally gave up. I'm now trying Mandrake 9.1. > It took 4 days and several attempts to get the install completed without > errors. (Found the disk 1 iso on the Hawaii mirror is bad too.) I haven't > had much time to work with it yet, but it has been a disappointment too. > Mandrake update doesn't work to start with. The whole task bar at the > bottom of the screen keeps disappearing too. Only way to get it back is to > log off and log back on. This same box would run for weeks on Win 98 with > no errors. I have not even tried to connect to my file server or printers > yet. If I cannot do it without manually editing files I'll probably just > put Windows back on and forget about Linux for a desktop. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Phil Mattison [mailto:mattison@ohmikron.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 12:58 PM > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > Subject: Re: Good Bye Gnome, Hello KDE, I hope > > > Here's my chance to do a little whining. I've been having problems with > both Gnome and KDE on a development server I have (RH7.3). I hardly ever > use either, but it seems whenever I use either for much more than reading > email the system tends to become unstable, may even crash sometimes, or the > disk gets corrupted and requires repair on the next boot. Not very > impressive for a system reputed to be sooooo stable. > --Phil M. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: George Gambill > To: > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 10:20 AM > Subject: Good Bye Gnome, Hello KDE, I hope > > > I want to change from Gnome to KDE (RH 8). I have been lead to believe > > Gnome (at least under LTSP) has a memory leak. > > > > I thought I could insert the RH 8 CD, boot, select upgrade with the > > customize box checked and then down stream a ways (in the screens) select > > (check) KDE with some minor shuck'n and jive'n after the upgrade. As I > > go through the screens (Tree View), nothing is checked. I expected to > > see > > the > > > existing packages checked. I canceled. > > > > Is there an easier way? FWIW, this box happens to be an LTSP server. > > This > > > is the box I hope to bring to the next InstallFest for demonstration > > (LTSP) > > > purposes, if that an LTSP demo is deemed worthy. > > > > Thanks > > > > George Wayne Gambill ... 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