On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 06:20:07PM -0700, Jeremy C. Reed wrote: > Blackbox is still developed. The development 0.7x code includes netwm (aka > ewmh) support. It is expected to be released officially this summer. I did not know that. I'm sorry to spread the dis-information. :-) > Are you referring to the epistrophy (epist) or epist-ng keygrabber? (They > should work with blackbox 0.70 too.) I don't believe I have tried epist, but I'm certainly willing to give it a try. (BTW, I was referring to fluxbox's integrated keygrabber.) > I don't think the wheel mouse support is in 0.70 -- I don't use it. > Patches are available for blackbox (old and new). (Patches can be found > via the blackbox webpage.) Again, I'll have to look into it. Some people don't care for the "no-click" experience, but I live and die by sloppy focus and mouse wheels. ;-) > I look forward to reading it. (I have written a few window manager reviews > and also maintain the blackbox FAQ.) Where are your reviews located? Perhaps I could review them to make sure I cover all the major points of a window manager. > Alt-F2 to open a "run as" box? > > This can be done with bbkeys or different keygrabber to pop-up that tool > (maybe bbrun). KDE's mini-CLI feature is far greater than a "run as" box. It provides for customizable URLs such as: gg:search term - Search google for "search term" ggg:search term - Search google groups for "search term" acro:HAND - Look up the acronym "HAND" at acronymfinder.com dict:word - Look up "word" at your dictionary site of choice I find this feature to be a massive time saver beyond what I would have expected. I am fairly convinced that KDE's mini-CLI increases my productivity far beyond any other aspect of KDE. I mentioned gmrun (http://students.infoiasi.ro/~mishoo/site/gmrun.epl) which seems to provide similar functionality but with more typing (i.e., gg://search term). PS: Thank you for your feedback. Since Blackbox seems to more common than fluxbox in most major Linux distributions, I will have to re-evaluate a newer version of Blackbox when time permits. -- Voltage Spike ,,, (. .) --ooO-(_)-Ooo--