Eh, somehow I get the impression you're not quite ready for Debian yet. We'll work on making you a h4rdc0r3 Linux user in the mean time. On Thu, 2003-06-12 at 14:17, Phil Mattison wrote: > Debian has been suggested several times, so I'm tempted. > Point me to a web site that will convince me its worth the effort to switch. > --Phil M. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Robert Wultsch > To: > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 2:04 PM > Subject: Re: Good Bye Gnome, Hello KDE, I hope > > > > Ever think about debian? > > > > Phil Mattison wrote: > > > > > This system is a PentiumIII 600MHz with 128MB RAM in a genuine Intel > > > motherboard. No strange hardware, recent Netgear PCI LAN card, ordinary > ATA > > > CD-ROM drive and floppy, SIS-300 graphics chip, and that's it. Took me > about > > > a day and a half to install RH7.3, get samba running and setup Apache. > Its > > > fairly stable so long as I connect via SSH from a remote terminal or > move > > > files via samba (I edit on a Win98 box). I used to leave it on for weeks > at > > > a time. But I like to use the KDE email reader to check my server logs > etc, > > > and gradually I noticed a correlation between using that and system > > > instability. Now I shut it down every night and minimize my KDE/Gnome > usage, > > > so the effort to figure out the problem is more than that of avoiding > it. I > > > have a RH8.0 box set I was going to upgrade to, but heard that RH major > > > releases tend to be the least stable (what the !?!?!). I think the > > > open-source community is like the Bizarro world of computing, to borrow > from > > > Sienfeld. Just the same, I love a free lunch. I guess I just have to > chew > > > carefully. > > > --Phil M. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Alan Dayley > > > To: > > > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 4:28 PM > > > Subject: RE: Good Bye Gnome, Hello KDE, I hope > > > > > > > > > > > >>Occam's Razor applies here. > > >> > > >>On a particular box Linux is unstable but Windows 98 is stable. Why? > > >> > > >>Is it more probable that thousands of other installations of that same > > > > > > Linux distro version are also unstable and the users are lying about the > > > stablility? > > > > > >>OR > > >> > > >>Is it more probable that the particular computer has odd or flakey > > > > > > hardware or some other issue that the particular Linux distro version > does > > > not handle well? > > > > > >>There is some flakey or poorly documented hardware, especially in some > > > > > > older PCs, that just don't run Linux correctly. IMO Linux actually > pushes > > > the hardware harder than Win98 ever will. Marginal chips or vendors > that > > > won't release required information make it hard to write good drivers > for > > > some hardware. > > > > > >>OTOH, it could be something else. :^) > > >> > > >>Alan > > >> > > >>-------Original Message------- > > >>From: Tom Achtenberg > > >>Sent: 06/12/03 01:08 PM > > >>To: "'plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us'" > > > > > > > > > > > >>Subject: RE: Good Bye Gnome, Hello KDE, I hope > > >> > > >> > > >>>Phil, I had the same problems with my RH 7.3 box. It was much less > > > > > > stable > > > > > >>than my Windows 98 box! I finally gave up. I'm now trying Mandrake > 9.1. > > >>It took 4 days and several attempts to get the install completed without > > >>errors. (Found the disk 1 iso on the Hawaii mirror is bad too.) I > > > > > > haven't > > > > > >>had much time to work with it yet, but it has been a disappointment too. > > >>Mandrake update doesn't work to start with. The whole task bar at the > > >>bottom of the screen keeps disappearing too. Only way to get it back is > > > > > > to log > > > > > >>off and log back on. This same box would run for weeks on Win 98 with > no > > >>errors. I have not even tried to connect to my file server or printers > > > > > > yet. > > > > > >> If I cannot do it without manually editing files I'll probably just put > > >>Windows back on and forget about Linux for a desktop. > > >> > > >> > > >>--------------------------------------------------- > > >>PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > >>To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: > > >>http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: > > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss