Ok, so there were my kids paying around with knoppix when they ran across 'kstars'. In-computer planetarium. It's right cool. Being more gnomey than kdey, I hadn't been to the other side. It certainly resolves one problem I had with looking at 'stars' when I was a kid. "Mom look! A star!" "Which one?" "I dunno, but it's IN THE TELESCOPE." "How nice, dear." Of course telescopic star gazing still suffers from "that's just a spec of light" even when it's a planet in the telescope. Particularly after I think "I've got a planetarium program now that shows specs of light, information about them, and is inside." :-) Anyway, if you want to relive childhood memories or assist your kids with accurately naming stars/constellations/panets, check out kstars. Available in a package format of your choice. David