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I would still say that Dia isn't as smooth as Visio, but it's the best
open source utility for this kind of stuff that I've found.  For the
most part, anything that I can do in Visio I can do in Dia (minus the
nifty database backend stuff).

If you haven't tried Dia 0.91 you might look at that, there have been
several cleanups on the UI, and it is now GTK 2.0.  I personally like it
better than older versions.  It is starting to become more GNOME HIG
compliant.

As a FYI, there are quite a few tools that will turn Dia files into
other 'stuff'.  Just guessing at what you are doing, but there is a
dia2sql script out there...

		--Ted

On Thu, 2003-05-29 at 16:00, Liberty Young wrote:
> I'm looking for a quick and off-shelf data modeling tool, especially for
> ERDs...the default ERD figures that come with xfig are few and outdated.
> Plus, i don't like the user interface of xfig, especially when compared
> to an excellent product like Visio. I haven't looked into kivio, but i
> don't want to install KDE and kde office for just one program. Dia is
> okay, but again, it feels klunky and i don't see any good ERD figures in
> there.=20
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> Again, my only beef is the lack of ERD figures and the interfaces are
> klunky.=20
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> I'm sad to say it, but right now, Visio is still the best tool I've seen
> (at least, for smaller projects, i have yet the pleasure of working on
> super huge systems yet :)
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