Previously posted: > > Here is a quote from UCLA professor Phil Agre. > > "Knowledge lives in communities, not individuals. > A computer user who's not part of a community of > computer users is going to have a harder time of > it than one who is." > At the risk of getting OT, I have always found the tension between self-interest and the need to be part of a community a fascinating paradox. Here is an excerpt from a book I once read that throws a glaring light on the subject: "AT THE TOP of the hierarchy of social organization is the realm of sovereignty, where there are no rules. Here the hypocrisy is extreme; for the stability and solidarity of the collective are dependent upon the confidence of its constituent subordinate collectives and individuals that the government is itself bound by those principles which protect its constituents, as well as its neighbors, from the abuse of its power. So the spokesmen for the sovereign amoral nation are constantly proclaiming the nation's morality, its commitment to justice, freedom, and peace, whereas in fact, they are leading the nation in the pursuit of more power by whatever means promise success. Insofar as this pursuit is curbed at all, it is curbed by fear of retaliation by other sovereign states and fear of insurrection at home." Allen Wheelis -- The Path Not Taken And it seems the big guys have less to fear every day. (My two cents) -- Phil Mattison Ohmikron Corp. 480-722-9595 ext. 1