I thought that was the case (NTFS is journalised and needs occasional defraging). My issue with ext2 is that long rebot time after not umounting cleanly. Also I got corrupted files and had no clue why. I am using a knoopix hard drive install so the first thing I did once everything was working was a whole bunch of apt-get removeing. At this point I think it is a good bet that the a nice defrag could be helpful so that problems do not arise in the future. Knoppix gives the following options: ext2 ext3 reiser xfs ------------------------- Robert James Wultsch III robert.wultsch@asu.edu sheepsleep7 (AIM) (480)951-3169 (Home) (602)692-7564 (Cell) 6900 East Gold Dust #107 Scottsdale, Arizona 85253, USA Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html On Thu, 22 May 2003, David Mandala wrote: > Actually journaling and needing to be defragged are different issues > and not related. That said unlike msdos, vfat, vfat32 and the like, xfs > does not normally need to be defragged, nor normally does ext2 or ext3 > or for that matter reiserfs. > > What was the problem that you had with ext2. Was it the reboot time if > shutdown incorrectly? If so use ext3 which is journaling like xfs or > just use xfs everywhere. > > Since fat32 is not a native Linux file system you lose security and > ownership control as it has not got the necessary storage for that. > > Cheers, > > Davidm > > On Thu, 2003-05-22 at 15:57, Bryce C wrote: > > Pardon me but isn't XFS a journaling FS and therefore not need to be > > defragged? Nonetheless, if you really want, run fsck.xfs (snickers). > > fsck.xfs is for people just like you. It's just an empty bin that does > > nada. > > > > On Thu, 2003-05-22 at 15:42, Robert.Wultsch@asu.edu wrote: > > > I guess I was showing my inexperience there. Is there some way that I kde > > > automaticly mount the partition for specific users? > > > OR > > > Is there some way to transform a fat32 to a unix file system? Would i even > > > want to do this, as my experience with ext2 sucks. (I am using xfs for my > > > /,btw anyone know how to defrag a xfs?) > > > > > > ------------------------- > > > Robert James Wultsch III > > > robert.wultsch@asu.edu > > > sheepsleep7 (AIM) > > > (480)951-3169 (Home) > > > (602)692-7564 (Cell) > > > 6900 East Gold Dust #107 > > > Scottsdale, Arizona 85253, USA > > > Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. > > > See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > > > > > > On Thu, 22 May 2003, Jeremy C. Reed wrote: > > > > > > > On Thu, 22 May 2003, Rob Wultsch wrote: > > > > > > > > > /stuff is vfat.I have it automaticly mounted with a line in my > > > > > /etc/fstab that reads: > > > > > /dev/hda2 /stuff vfat auto,user,umask=000 0 0 > > > > > > > > > > I am discouraged by: > > > > > root@fearlessrogue:/home/rob# chown rob:rob /stuff > > > > > chown: changing ownership of `/stuff': Operation not permitted > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any suggestions??? > > > > > > > > Yes, see my previous email: > > > > > > > > > > I assume that /stuff is not a Unix-type filesystem. > > > > > > > > It's vfat. It is not a Unix-type filesystem that supports different users > > > > and groups. > > > > > > > > > > Maybe, use your mount options to choose which uid (and gid) should be used > > > > > > when it is mounted in the first place. > > > > > > > > Look at your mount manual page; read about "vfat": > > > > uid=value and gid=value > > > > Set the owner and group of all files. (Default: the > > > > uid and gid of the current process.) > > > > > > > > > > > > For example (where 101 is your music user and 101 is your music group): > > > > > > > > /dev/hda2 /stuff vfat auto,user,umask=000,uid=101,gid=101 0 0 > > > > > > > > Have fun! > > > > > > > > Jeremy C. Reed > > > > http://bsd.reedmedia.net/ > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: > > > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: > > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- > David IS Mandala > gpg fingerprint 8932 E7EF CCF5 1B8C 1B5C A92E C678 795E 45B2 D952 > Phoenix, AZ (480) 460-7545 HP, (602) 741-1363 CP > http://www.them.com/~davidm/ > > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >