Actually journaling and needing to be defragged  are different issues
and not related. That said unlike msdos, vfat, vfat32 and the like, xfs
does not normally need to be defragged, nor normally does ext2 or ext3
or for that matter reiserfs.

What was the problem that you had with ext2. Was it the reboot time if
shutdown incorrectly? If so use ext3 which is journaling like xfs or
just use xfs everywhere.

Since fat32 is not a native Linux file system you lose security and
ownership control as it has not got the necessary storage for that.

Cheers,

Davidm

On Thu, 2003-05-22 at 15:57, Bryce C wrote:
> Pardon me but isn't XFS a journaling FS and therefore not need to be
> defragged? Nonetheless, if you really want, run fsck.xfs (snickers).
> fsck.xfs is for people just like you. It's just an empty bin that does
> nada.
> 
> On Thu, 2003-05-22 at 15:42, Robert.Wultsch@asu.edu wrote:
> > I guess I was showing my inexperience there. Is there some way that I kde
> > automaticly mount the partition for specific users?
> > OR
> > Is there some way to transform a fat32 to a unix file system? Would i even
> > want to do this, as my experience with ext2 sucks. (I am using xfs for my
> > /,btw anyone know how to defrag a xfs?)
> > 
> > -------------------------
> > Robert James Wultsch III
> > robert.wultsch@asu.edu
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> > Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
> > See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
> > 
> > On Thu, 22 May 2003, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
> > 
> > > On Thu, 22 May 2003, Rob Wultsch wrote:
> > > 
> > > > /stuff is vfat.I have it automaticly mounted with a line in my
> > > > /etc/fstab that reads:
> > > > /dev/hda2 /stuff vfat auto,user,umask=000 0 0
> > > >
> > > > I am discouraged by:
> > > > root@fearlessrogue:/home/rob# chown rob:rob /stuff
> > > > chown: changing ownership of `/stuff': Operation not permitted
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Any suggestions???
> > > 
> > > Yes, see my previous email:
> > > 
> > > > > I assume that /stuff is not a Unix-type filesystem.
> > > 
> > > It's vfat. It is not a Unix-type filesystem that supports different users
> > > and groups.
> > > 
> > > > > Maybe, use your mount options to choose which uid (and gid) should be used
> > > > > when it is mounted in the first place.
> > > 
> > > Look at your mount manual page; read about "vfat":
> > >        uid=value and gid=value
> > >               Set the owner and group of all files. (Default: the
> > >               uid and gid of the current process.)
> > > 
> > > 
> > > For example (where 101 is your music user and 101 is your music group):
> > > 
> > > /dev/hda2 /stuff vfat auto,user,umask=000,uid=101,gid=101 0 0
> > > 
> > > Have fun!
> > > 
> > >    Jeremy C. Reed
> > >    http://bsd.reedmedia.net/
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