I have a rather interesting situation with a client of mine. They are a non-profit mental health provider - the Executive Director is Ray Grey I have included him in the distribution of this email. Anyway, I think he agrees with me that the best path for a non-profit corporation to go is open source/free software and he does have a die-hard Windows guy as president of the board of directors. Apparently the issue comes down to his belief that there aren't any Linux programmers around. Imagine that! They are in central Phoenix. I told him that there were many Linux programmers around and if I put the word out on just one mail list (PLUG), that he would likely be inundated with people, capable and willing and most likely resumes. I can't guarantee that anyone will get a programming assignment...it may ultimately end up at an over priced Windows integrator. The project involves collection of data into an SQL database and sending electronic compilations of the data as billing data in HCFA type blocks...multi-user and the user interface and the middleware is not determined. If you are interested, please send him an email - feel free to copy me or don't copy me and that's fine. If you are a programmer but are currently involved in other projects please drop him a short note just to let him know that there are Linux programmers as this is a sticking point. If you have questions, please feel free to send them to me. The big issue here, if I failed to make the point is that we have a non-profit agency with a lot of Macintosh computers and no real investment in Microsoft Windows hardware or software. It's obvious to me that this is the right time to move to open source / free software and the major obstacle to this is that they have a perception that Linux programmers, integrators, system administrators etc. are not readily identifiable...stand up and be counted and you will make a difference in the perception of decision makers. Thanks, Craig