KevinO wrote: > = > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > = > Rob Wultsch wrote: > > Isn't x-window-system something like 50+ megs? > > > > And what I meant by implementing x in the kernel is having just the v= ery > > basic x... This would make transitions for mcse's much easier. > > > = > If the 'MCSE' is trying to transition to using Linux than including X o= n their > box will help. (Although not in kernel-space) > = > If the 'MCSE' is trying to transition into a roll of support and/or > administration, they will make the best progress by learning on the com= mand > line first! Important concepts and skill sets such as Unix philosophy, > redirection, piping, efficient use of the shell, etc. require use of th= e > command line. The sooner someone learns the basics of how a Unix system= works, > the better their progress will be. > = > People that have never really worked with Unix (or Linux) have now idea= how > crippled they are without the command line, reguardless of the operatin= g system. > = > I heard Kim Komando last weekend on the radio. A guy called in and he w= anted Most of the computer-savvy people (and all the Linux people) in Honolulu laugh at Kim Kommando. They take her about as seriously as intelligent people take Jerry Springer as a talk show host. > to print out a list of files in a directory. (onto a piece of paper) I = was > amazed at her answer. She suggested that he buy a $30 package that does= that > for him. She then went on to say that she uses this software herself. > = > My answers: > = > DOS Window: dir > tempfile > print tempfile > = > Best answer (Unix) : ls | lpr > = > Without using the command-line, you can't do anything without finding t= he > correct series of icons to click on. Time spent digging through menus c= an be > better spent eating pizza or drinking soda. > - -- > KevinO > = > A "few" is an indefinitely small number that conveys a qualitative sens= e of a > quantity, but not quantitative fact. Recently I've read several guides on securing Windows XP, and Windows XP Home Edition. Funny thing is, to really secure it *requires* using the command line. This tells me that an MCSE that doesn't already know the command line needs a refresher course, and probably doesn't know too much about security, either. = In case anyone is wondering, the one of the GIAC guides to securing Windows XP Home Edition is 53 pages long (www.giac.org/practical/GSEC/Dennis_Schrader_GSEC.pdf). Anyone want to place a wager on how many (er, few) secure XP Home systems there are in the world? Scary. George -- = Discover . . . | Free Computer Security Information <=B7=B7=B7> Secure | http://www.georgetoft.com/security Networking | = @http://georgetoft.com | Lock your box - keep your affairs private!