-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Rob Wultsch wrote: > Isn't x-window-system something like 50+ megs? > > And what I meant by implementing x in the kernel is having just the very > basic x... This would make transitions for mcse's much easier. > If the 'MCSE' is trying to transition to using Linux than including X on their box will help. (Although not in kernel-space) If the 'MCSE' is trying to transition into a roll of support and/or administration, they will make the best progress by learning on the command line first! Important concepts and skill sets such as Unix philosophy, redirection, piping, efficient use of the shell, etc. require use of the command line. The sooner someone learns the basics of how a Unix system works, the better their progress will be. People that have never really worked with Unix (or Linux) have now idea how crippled they are without the command line, reguardless of the operating system. I heard Kim Komando last weekend on the radio. A guy called in and he wanted to print out a list of files in a directory. (onto a piece of paper) I was amazed at her answer. She suggested that he buy a $30 package that does that for him. She then went on to say that she uses this software herself. My answers: DOS Window: dir > tempfile print tempfile Best answer (Unix) : ls | lpr Without using the command-line, you can't do anything without finding the correct series of icons to click on. Time spent digging through menus can be better spent eating pizza or drinking soda. - -- KevinO A "few" is an indefinitely small number that conveys a qualitative sense of a quantity, but not quantitative fact. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE+s0prjBS1mMJB+bQRAiyuAKDlFqIjdNj0RT4E3PAagBvSnsoNlwCeMwsu Z6q/EZy3nHM6p5DIBpY8icg= =0j6Z -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----