Am 16. Apr, 2003 schw=E4tzte technomage so:

> hm, I was under the impression there was a "free/open source" version of =
that.

Nope. Kaffe and such don't cut it. No biggie. Plenty of other things
available. Derek gave some helpful feedback :).

BTW, it's not that I hate Java. It's always been a bit slow and buggy (both
things that releasing it under the GPL could fix), but it's my favorite
language to code. I just won't do it until Sun does the right thing. They'v=
e
borked it up so long that releasing to a standards committee and getting ou=
t
of the way is now the only way for them to do the right thing.

> ok. what about the naysayers that spout off with "redhat sux" or somethin=
g
> else and start a flame war?

That's OK. If someone gets really obnoxious, then the channel ops can kick
them. At the same time, the ops have to be tolerant. It's the same as at
Bandersnatch or elsewhere in life.

irc is actually pretty great in that sub-rooms can pop up on the fly if
people are interested in something specific. I don't want set topics, but i=
f
something should just naturally be of interest during a Stammtisch, well,
that's why I created it :).

Also, since we have a good DSL feed at Bandersnatch, people there would be
able to also attend the virtual Stammtisch.

> the chans can be formed within minutes of the time needed (I can act as
> founder if need be). or whoever wants to head the chan can do it that way=
=2E
> chans are easy to create in irc. so, when they are needed, they are there=
=2E
> otherwise, when not needed, they can disappear until next time. :)

Yeah, it's not hard to join a channel that doesn't exist :).

Derek's suggestion with MagicPoint is great. Presentations could also be
done with html, though.

ciao,

der.hans
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