This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C2F4A2.02BB64F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pardon the HTML. This is for Michael Havens: Hi. My name is Chris and I'm a Windows-holic. It started so innocently. My first computer, an HP, came with Windows = Me preinstalled. All I had to do was turn it on and soon I was pointing = and clicking all over the internet. I learned about Google and Yahoo = and the joy of e-mail. I began to download. For a while life was good. = Then my computer crashed. And crashed again. Files disappeared. I = hit rock bottom when I had to reinstall my OS. I began to think that there must be more to life than trying to get my = computer to work reliably. I had bought a certain bare-bones computer = from Fry's, an FIC Sabre, because it was very quiet and small, unlike = the HP which sounded a lot like a cheap vacuum cleaner (I finally = quieted down the HP by replacing its 12 volt case fan with a 24 volt = fan.) The Sabre had a problem which prevented any OS installation: it = can't handle the 512 MB of RAM it said it could. I didn't discover the = cause of, and cure for, the Sabre's problem until after I had bought = Windows 2000 Pro to try to install in it. I began to read about other = operating systems and decided to give Linux a try. I bought Mandrake = 8.1 PowerPack and installed it in my Windows 2000 Pro computer last = March or so. I have had no problems dual booting the two operating = systems in spite of the fact that everything I read said it would be way = tricky to do. I just stuck the Mandrake CD in and sat back. During the = installation LILO automagically replaced the Windows boot program = without a hitch. I only needed to tell Mandrake not to bother the = existing partitions during the installation, and then I had to find the = GUI and configure LILO to my liking after I restarted the computer and = Linux loaded by default. But I haven't been able to kick Windows cold turkey because I can't get = online in Linux. In fact you could say I've fallen off the Linux wagon, = since I never use Linux for anything because I can't get online. I = bought a hardware based internal PCI modem, a U.S. Robotics/3Com 5610B, = because it was the only modem I found at the time in Fry's which said on = the box that it would work with Linux. It didn't, at least not for me, = but since it worked fine in W2KPro I knew that the problem wasn't in the = modem. When I tried the Harddrake wizard it thought the modem was a = Winmodem and wouldn't go any further. With help from Mandrake: Here are the details about your incident: alans : 06:06 01:38 : Reply = received=20 Try this in a console or console window as root. First, to find out = the pci address of the modem, type: lspci And then use that address (of = the form xx:xx.x) to get verbose info by typing lspci -v -s Write down the io and IRQ being used then run setserial by typing: = setserial /dev/ttyS4 port irq then verify that it sees a UART by typing: = setserial /dev/ttyS4 If it doesn\'t, you can guess that it\'s a regular = 16550A UART, so then type: setserial /dev/ttyS4 uart 16550A.=20 This is the part that makes it work though: type: cd /dev then type: = ln -sf ttyS4 modem. Now set your kppp program to use /dev/modem and you = should be fine. -- Alan - MandrakeSoft Support Team :)=20 This got Linux to recognize the modem and even dial my ISP, but as soon = as the two modems established a connection they disconnected. A friend = who knows Linux very well actually got my Yahoo home page to load, one = time. He couldn't figure out how he did it though, and was unable to do = it again. At least I know that it is possible to get online using my = dial-up modem in Linux After that I gave up trying to use Linux until Mandrake 9.0 came along. = I hoped that however it was different it might allow me to get online = so I asked a friend who had access to high-speed internet to download it = for me, but it didn't work either. In fact setserial seems to have = disappeared from 9.0, and I need it to make the modem work. I joined the PLUG discuss mailing list hoping to discover something that = will help me to get online in Linux. Forums and mailing lists are new = to me so maybe I'm not doing it right, but I find the PLUG mailing list = a bit difficult to read. Most of the messages (posts?) seem to be in = plain text, full of darts and carriage returns on my computer (Windows = 2000 Pro; and I use Yahoo for my mail, so I'm reading it in IE.) The = one message that was in HTML was fine. Again, I'm probably not doing = something right, but what? Christopher Bardin ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C2F4A2.02BB64F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Pardon the = HTML.  This is=20 for Michael Havens:
 
Hi. My name is = Chris and I'm a=20 Windows-holic.
 
It started so = innocently.  My=20 first computer, an HP, came with Windows Me preinstalled.  All I = had to do=20 was turn it on and soon I was pointing and clicking all over the=20 internet.  I learned about Google and Yahoo and the joy of = e-mail.  I=20 began to download.  For a while life was good.  Then my = computer=20 crashed.  And crashed again.  Files disappeared.  I hit = rock=20 bottom when I had to reinstall my OS.
 
I began to think that there must be more to life than trying to get = my=20 computer to work reliably.  I had bought a certain bare-bones = computer from=20 Fry's, an FIC Sabre, because it was very quiet and small, unlike the HP = which=20 sounded a lot like a cheap vacuum cleaner (I finally quieted down the HP = by=20 replacing its 12 volt case fan with a 24 volt fan.)  The Sabre had = a=20 problem which prevented any OS installation: it can't handle the = 512 MB of=20 RAM it said it could.  I didn't discover the cause of, and cure = for, the=20 Sabre's problem until after I had bought Windows 2000 Pro to try to = install in=20 it.  I began to read about other operating systems and decided = to give=20 Linux a try.  I bought Mandrake 8.1 PowerPack and installed it = in my=20 Windows 2000 Pro computer last March or so.  I have had no = problems=20 dual booting the two operating systems in spite of the fact that = everything I=20 read said it would be way tricky to do.  I just stuck the Mandrake = CD in=20 and sat back.  During the installation LILO automagically replaced = the=20 Windows boot program without a hitch.  I only needed to tell = Mandrake not=20 to bother the existing partitions during the installation, and then I = had to=20 find the GUI and configure LILO to my liking after I restarted the = computer and=20 Linux loaded by default.
 
But I haven't been able to kick Windows cold turkey because I can't = get=20 online in Linux.  In fact you could say I've fallen off the Linux = wagon,=20 since I never use Linux for anything because I can't get online.  I = bought=20 a hardware based internal PCI modem, a U.S. Robotics/3Com=20 5610B, because it was the only modem I found at the time in = Fry's which=20 said on the box that it would work with Linux.  It didn't, at = least=20 not for me, but since it worked fine in W2KPro I knew that the problem = wasn't in=20 the modem.  When I tried the Harddrake wizard it thought the modem = was a=20 Winmodem and wouldn't go any further.  With help from = Mandrake:

Here are the details = about your=20 incident: alans : 06:06 01:38 : Reply received =

Try this in a console or console = window as root.=20 First, to find out the pci address of the modem, type: lspci And then = use that=20 address (of the form xx:xx.x) to get verbose info by typing lspci -v=20 -s

Write down the io and IRQ being=20 used then=20 run setserial by typing: setserial /dev/ttyS4 port irq then verify = that it=20 sees a UART by typing: setserial /dev/ttyS4 If it doesn\'t, you can = guess that=20 it\'s a regular 16550A UART, so then type: setserial /dev/ttyS4 uart = 16550A.=20

This is the part that makes it work = though:=20 type: cd /dev then type: ln -sf ttyS4 modem. Now set your kppp = program to use=20 /dev/modem and you should be fine. -- Alan - MandrakeSoft Support Team = :)=20

This got Linux to recognize the modem and even dial my ISP, but as = soon as=20 the two modems established a connection they disconnected.  A = friend who=20 knows Linux very well actually got my Yahoo home page to load, one = time. =20 He couldn't figure out how he did it though, and was unable to do it=20 again.  At least I know that it is possible to get online using my = dial-up=20 modem in Linux
 
After that I gave up trying to use Linux until Mandrake = 9.0 came=20 along. I hoped that however it was different it might allow me to get=20 online so I asked a friend who had access to = high-speed internet to=20 download it  for me, but it didn't work either.  In=20 fact setserial seems to have disappeared from 9.0, and I = need it=20 to make the modem work.
 
I joined the PLUG discuss mailing list hoping to discover something = that=20 will help me to get online in Linux.  Forums and mailing lists are = new to=20 me so maybe I'm not doing it right, but I find the PLUG mailing = list a bit=20 difficult to read.  Most of the messages (posts?) seem to be = in plain=20 text, full of darts and carriage returns on my computer (Windows 2000 = Pro; and I=20 use Yahoo for my mail, so I'm reading it in IE.)  The one message = that was=20 in HTML was fine.  Again, I'm probably not doing something right, = but=20 what?
 
Christopher Bardin
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