Tom Achtenberg wrote: > On all the networks I've been part of ranging in size from 20 to 250 machines, no one has been allowed to connect a machine that was not company issue without the IT directors approval. This has included remotely connection through VAN or Citric. All remote machines have been required to have firewall and current anti virus software. None of our users have been geek enough to even know what Linux is let alone have enough technical know how to use it. We do run about 6 or 7 Linux servers but no Linux workstations. Well, ASU has about 50,000 people come to main campus every day and probably about 30,000 computers (this is a guess, I really don't know but we have at least 2 Class B networks). Sheer size of course eliminates the possibility of a single individual controlling every computer on campus. Of course a heirarchy of beuracracy can take this role. HOWEVER (here is the important point), ASU has little to do with the selection and purchase and administration of many of these machines for one very simple reason. This reason being, unlike a corporate network, the money to PAY for many of the machines does not come from the organization that owns the network. Research computers are paid for by grants that come from the federal government who pays professors to do research. So, typical politics aside, each professor has his own little fiefdom due to the fact that he has established some independance by drawing outside investment. So, ASU IT, ETS, and DATACOM are pretty much in a tough position. They don't do a bad job, ,but sometimes projects a little misguided. So, I guess you would have to imagine running a network where you have little to say about what people do on it. Obviously, they can shut down anything that is really causing trouble. Austin