I can't and won't compete with $7 per hour which is what some overseas programmers are getting (and they are happy with it). I don't think their rates are going to come up much in the near future so I don't think it is going to level out. That said there are lots of small business that can't go of shore, I plan on working with them when possible. On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 16:37, Carl Parrish wrote: > Unlike in other industries I don't think this has to destroy us. Our > rates will come down. Their will come up. We're too plugged into a > global economy for it to stay to imbalanced. (pssst this would be a good > conversation to have in the consulting corner forum of carlparrish.com). -- David IS Mandala gpg fingerprint 8932 E7EF CCF5 1B8C 1B5C A92E C678 795E 45B2 D952 Phoenix, AZ (480) 460-7545 HP, (602) 741-1363 CP http://www.them.com/~davidm/